Newbie Mesmer needs help!!! - Page 3 - Guild Wars Forums

Yanman.be · Jul 27, 2006, 07:02 PM // 19:02

My fault. It should read TO experiment. With builds.

SuperFuzz · Jul 27, 2006, 07:21 PM // 19:21

Okay, one more question. When and where might I run into this and have the opportunity? I haven't seen anything like that as of yet.

gamecube187 · Jul 27, 2006, 08:34 PM // 20:34

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Originally Posted by SuperFuzz

Okay, one more question. When and where might I run into this and have the opportunity? I haven't seen anything like that as of yet.

What opportunity? Do you mean getting new skills? If so you can already get them from npc's that have [skills] after their name. I'm pretty sure that there is only one on the island you are on and thats in the shing jea monstery.

You said you can't find armor npc's? There is one in shing jea. Sometimes towns are too big to see all of the npc's by just standing in one spot and holding alt down (shing jea is one of those places). You have to be running around the city while holding alt sometimes to find what you are looking for.

Also, didn't you say you had monk as your secondary? If so, then you should have had an easy time doing the survive for two minutes, as one of monks main jobs is to heal (in fact that's just about the only thing they are used for...).

If you have the money, I would suggest buying prophecies, as more than half of it is for lower leveled characters, and it is much easier to learn how to play before you get to hard quests/missions/areas. In fact, they don't really start getting hard untill about the middle of the game. Factions on the other hand gets starts to get hard by the third mission (if you didn't get better armor by then) or the fourth mission (from this mission on, you basically have to have gotten better armor).

Oh and welcome to GuildWars.

felinette · Jul 27, 2006, 08:35 PM // 20:35

Any time you're in a town or outpost, you can hit the 'H' key and adjust your build. A box will open displaying your character's attributes and such. You can play around with builds by increasing and decreasing the points you've allocated to each attribute line until you find something that works for you. Note that when you do this, you'll probably want to change the skills you take out with you, too. There isn't a quest to do it or anything like that. You can do it anytime. You did it when you were trying to figure out how to get your mesmer insignia. You played around with your build (attribute points and skills) until you found something that worked. You can continue to do this throughout the game. You'll probably change your build for certain areas, once you become familiar with them. For example, eles will take fire magic if they know they'll be up against lots of ice creatures.

Doug Clifton · Jul 28, 2006, 01:44 AM // 01:44

Hang in there, Guild Wars was my first MMORPG too just stick it out and you will be great

Quinn · Jul 28, 2006, 08:24 AM // 08:24

I think the key to this is to just take it easy. There's a lot to learn and do in the game and you can't learn it all in the first week or so. I understand you started out with GW: Factions (chapter 2), and with all the helpful people in this thread I'm sure you'll be fine. Just wanted to add, that if you really like the game but want to learn it more thouroughly and have a less steep learning curve, you could get the original GW: Prophecies (chapter 1). Admittedly, I've progressed slower than most players but I've learned a lot about skill use, crafting materials, runes etc. etc. Prophecies will take you by the hand and teach you most, and friendly players teach you the rest

Oh and I also started out as a mesmer because they seemed fun, and after finding out it's one of the least played professions, I liked it even more

You'll be fine. Just don't rush things.

SuperFuzz · Jul 31, 2006, 01:41 AM // 01:41

While I've got you on the line, I've got several runes (mesmer runes of minor domination, illusion and inspiration magic) as well as 4 monastery credits. How do I use the runes, and what do I do with the monastery credits?

hoyalawya · Jul 31, 2006, 02:01 AM // 02:01

Here is how to use ruins - http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Rune

I was a noob not so long ago ago. Honestly, wiki helped me out a lot.

SuperFuzz · Jul 31, 2006, 05:13 PM // 17:13

Aha, that was easy enough. Thanks for the link!! Wish I'd read that page earlier! Looks like I need to find a major or superior rune to really get the rune effect, but we'll have to start with my minor ones. Too bad you can't stack them. Guess I can sell the others to a rune trader though?

tommarrow · Jul 31, 2006, 06:18 PM // 18:18

Be careful how many major or superior runes you use since they have a -35 or -75 to your hit points. If you have questions in game look me up.
Monastery credits trade with quartermaster.

<----IGN

SuperFuzz · Aug 08, 2006, 06:26 PM // 18:26

For clarification, does that mean I'm doing 35-75 less damage with each attack? I am using a superior rune, and if it's making me less effective, then I'm going to get rid of it. (It's a superior rune of domination magic).

Also, anyone have any good strategies for the battle at Zen Daijun? I've made about 6 tries with Henchies, and have made it to the bridge crossing the final gap to the Monastery, but that's the closest I've come. I figure barring strategy, getting a human lvl 20 to go with is the best thing, and finally got an elementalist one time that was kicking some serious butt, and of course I lost my internet connection. FRICK, FRACK and something spelled different too!!!

Canadian Bacon · Aug 08, 2006, 07:37 PM // 19:37

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Originally Posted by SuperFuzz

For clarification, does that mean I'm doing 35-75 less damage with each attack? I am using a superior rune, and if it's making me less effective, then I'm going to get rid of it. (It's a superior rune of domination magic).

Also, anyone have any good strategies for the battle at Zen Daijun? I've made about 6 tries with Henchies, and have made it to the bridge crossing the final gap to the Monastery, but that's the closest I've come. I figure barring strategy, getting a human lvl 20 to go with is the best thing, and finally got an elementalist one time that was kicking some serious butt, and of course I lost my internet connection. FRICK, FRACK and something spelled different too!!!

It doesn't make you deal less damage, it takes away form your health. I don't know what level you are at now, but I wouldn't adise a superior rune until lvl15 or higher, simply because your health would be too low otherwise. Low health may be the reason your having survivability issues. I would suggest droppign the henchies are trying to get a group of real people. If you fall victim to the Mesmer Hate mentality of other people, then form the group yourself. That way they can't kick you out

SuperFuzz · Aug 08, 2006, 07:53 PM // 19:53

Aha! That's why I'm dying so easy! After my last attempt with Little Kodiak (who by the way pretty much carried us), I thought about changing my character's name to "the fall guy" because that's all I was doing. Falling down! Arrgghh! We made it to the final battle with the farmer and Ying, but even with a lvl 20 Ritualist with me (Little Kodiak), we still didn't make it through. *sigh*

For clarification on my audio Bacon, I have a Plantronics DSP 500 USB headset, that acts as it's own audio device. When I switch to it, any program I launch after I switch will use it for the audio. Any I launched while the Audigy was enabled still try to use the Audigy, but since it's been turned off and the Plantronics turned on, I lose sound for that app. I can turn the Plantronics on and launch TS and will have sound in TS, but I lose my Guild Wars sound since it was launched using the Audigy. Hence why I have to close the game and restart it after I switch to the Plantronics.

I've got a Dr's appointment right now, but today is my first day off after a 64.5 hour work week, and I plan on relaxing and playing some more later. Maybe I can catch you online and enlist your assistance. If I finish this mission, I should hit level 16 and move on to where I can get some better armor, and maybe might finally become an asset instead of a liability and be welcome in a party!

lightblade · Aug 08, 2006, 10:29 PM // 22:29

You shouldn't be playing mesmer as your first character!

You need knowledge about all the skills in the game in order to play mesmer effectively. For example, many of the mesmer spells interrupt "spells" but enemy casters don't use "spells" all the time, so not everything can be interrupted.

SuperFuzz · Aug 08, 2006, 11:20 PM // 23:20

I found that out a little late, being new to the game, and had already created a mesmer. Now I've got numerous hours invested in a level 15 Mesmer, so I'm just doing my best to try to make the character work and become more proficient at using her skills properly.

Canadian Bacon · Aug 09, 2006, 03:33 AM // 03:33

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Originally Posted by SuperFuzz

I found that out a little late, being new to the game, and had already created a mesmer. Now I've got numerous hours invested in a level 15 Mesmer, so I'm just doing my best to try to make the character work and become more proficient at using her skills properly.

Once you get a handle over the Mesmer, everything else is cake.

Run Red Run · Aug 09, 2006, 03:53 AM // 03:53

I know what you're going through. GW was my first MMO as well, and for some strange reason, I picked Mesmer as my first character too. It's frustrating at first, but a few friends really helped me out and kept my interest. Now i'm a PvP junkie and play this game way more than I really should...

It's good that you're asking questions and there are plenty of people on these forums that will lend a helping hand.

SuperFuzz · Aug 09, 2006, 04:38 AM // 04:38

I've got to give Baconator credit. I was ready to give up on Guild Wars and call my self an FPS gamer, but with his help I was able to complete several missions I couldn't have otherwise and rekindled my interest in the game.

Now if I can just get past this bloody Zen Daijun mission, I'd be much happier. This mission is a proverbial b**ch!!!! I've even had lvl 20 human help and can't get through it!

Canadian Bacon · Aug 09, 2006, 04:52 AM // 04:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperFuzz

I've got to give Baconator credit. I was ready to give up on Guild Wars and call my self an FPS gamer, but with his help I was able to complete several missions I couldn't have otherwise and rekindled my interest in the game.

Now if I can just get past this bloody Zen Daijun mission, I'd be much happier. This mission is a proverbial b**ch!!!! I've even had lvl 20 human help and can't get through it!

Da Da DADA!!!! Guild member to the rescue!!!

(<--damn forum doens't have a Superman smiley, a Ninja will have to do)

Next time I see you online I'll give 'em a taste of my MM, or maybe my Wammo.

SuperFuzz · Aug 09, 2006, 08:20 AM // 08:20

Yay, thanks to Bacon and 2 other real peeps, I finally got through Zen Daijun! Learned several more valuable lessons tonight too.

1. Bravery and instigating a fight are not a good idea for a mesmer!
2. Always bring your resurrection skill when you have a henchie healer.
3. Storage agents actually serve a purpose.
4. Using a superior rune of domination on level 15 armor is NOT a good idea!

Bacon showed me a slew of other stuff tonight too. I feel like young padawan, being taught by the master. Except it's backwards since I'm crusty and he's not.

Jul 27, 2006, 07:02 PM // 19:02	#41
Yanman.be Banned Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Belgium Guild: [ROSE] Profession: A/	My fault. It should read TO experiment. With builds.

Jul 27, 2006, 07:21 PM // 19:21	#42
SuperFuzz Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Idaho Profession: W/Mo	Okay, one more question. When and where might I run into this and have the opportunity? I haven't seen anything like that as of yet.

Jul 27, 2006, 08:35 PM // 20:35	#44
felinette Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Mar 2006 Guild: Girl Power [GP] Profession: Me/	Any time you're in a town or outpost, you can hit the 'H' key and adjust your build. A box will open displaying your character's attributes and such. You can play around with builds by increasing and decreasing the points you've allocated to each attribute line until you find something that works for you. Note that when you do this, you'll probably want to change the skills you take out with you, too. There isn't a quest to do it or anything like that. You can do it anytime. You did it when you were trying to figure out how to get your mesmer insignia. You played around with your build (attribute points and skills) until you found something that worked. You can continue to do this throughout the game. You'll probably change your build for certain areas, once you become familiar with them. For example, eles will take fire magic if they know they'll be up against lots of ice creatures.

Jul 28, 2006, 01:44 AM // 01:44	#45
Doug Clifton Academy Page Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Oceanside, CA Guild: The Shadowed Assassins [DaRk] Profession: W/Mo	Hang in there, Guild Wars was my first MMORPG too just stick it out and you will be great

Jul 28, 2006, 08:24 AM // 08:24	#46
Quinn Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Nov 2005 Guild: [Away] Profession: Me/R	I think the key to this is to just take it easy. There's a lot to learn and do in the game and you can't learn it all in the first week or so. I understand you started out with GW: Factions (chapter 2), and with all the helpful people in this thread I'm sure you'll be fine. Just wanted to add, that if you really like the game but want to learn it more thouroughly and have a less steep learning curve, you could get the original GW: Prophecies (chapter 1). Admittedly, I've progressed slower than most players but I've learned a lot about skill use, crafting materials, runes etc. etc. Prophecies will take you by the hand and teach you most, and friendly players teach you the rest Oh and I also started out as a mesmer because they seemed fun, and after finding out it's one of the least played professions, I liked it even more You'll be fine. Just don't rush things.

Jul 31, 2006, 01:41 AM // 01:41	#47
SuperFuzz Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Idaho Profession: W/Mo	While I've got you on the line, I've got several runes (mesmer runes of minor domination, illusion and inspiration magic) as well as 4 monastery credits. How do I use the runes, and what do I do with the monastery credits?

Jul 31, 2006, 02:01 AM // 02:01	#48
hoyalawya Ascalonian Squire Join Date: May 2006	Here is how to use ruins - http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Rune I was a noob not so long ago ago. Honestly, wiki helped me out a lot.

Jul 31, 2006, 05:13 PM // 17:13	#49
SuperFuzz Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Idaho Profession: W/Mo	Aha, that was easy enough. Thanks for the link!! Wish I'd read that page earlier! Looks like I need to find a major or superior rune to really get the rune effect, but we'll have to start with my minor ones. Too bad you can't stack them. Guess I can sell the others to a rune trader though?

Jul 31, 2006, 06:18 PM // 18:18	#50
tommarrow Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Dec 2005 Guild: Shyft Machine [MYTH] Profession: E/	Be careful how many major or superior runes you use since they have a -35 or -75 to your hit points. If you have questions in game look me up. Monastery credits trade with quartermaster. <----IGN

Aug 08, 2006, 06:26 PM // 18:26	#51
SuperFuzz Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Idaho Profession: W/Mo	For clarification, does that mean I'm doing 35-75 less damage with each attack? I am using a superior rune, and if it's making me less effective, then I'm going to get rid of it. (It's a superior rune of domination magic). Also, anyone have any good strategies for the battle at Zen Daijun? I've made about 6 tries with Henchies, and have made it to the bridge crossing the final gap to the Monastery, but that's the closest I've come. I figure barring strategy, getting a human lvl 20 to go with is the best thing, and finally got an elementalist one time that was kicking some serious butt, and of course I lost my internet connection. FRICK, FRACK and something spelled different too!!!

Aug 08, 2006, 07:53 PM // 19:53	#53
SuperFuzz Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Idaho Profession: W/Mo	Aha! That's why I'm dying so easy! After my last attempt with Little Kodiak (who by the way pretty much carried us), I thought about changing my character's name to "the fall guy" because that's all I was doing. Falling down! Arrgghh! We made it to the final battle with the farmer and Ying, but even with a lvl 20 Ritualist with me (Little Kodiak), we still didn't make it through. sigh For clarification on my audio Bacon, I have a Plantronics DSP 500 USB headset, that acts as it's own audio device. When I switch to it, any program I launch after I switch will use it for the audio. Any I launched while the Audigy was enabled still try to use the Audigy, but since it's been turned off and the Plantronics turned on, I lose sound for that app. I can turn the Plantronics on and launch TS and will have sound in TS, but I lose my Guild Wars sound since it was launched using the Audigy. Hence why I have to close the game and restart it after I switch to the Plantronics. I've got a Dr's appointment right now, but today is my first day off after a 64.5 hour work week, and I plan on relaxing and playing some more later. Maybe I can catch you online and enlist your assistance. If I finish this mission, I should hit level 16 and move on to where I can get some better armor, and maybe might finally become an asset instead of a liability and be welcome in a party!

Aug 08, 2006, 10:29 PM // 22:29	#54
lightblade Forge Runner Join Date: May 2005 Guild: The Etereal Guard Profession: Me/Mo	You shouldn't be playing mesmer as your first character! You need knowledge about all the skills in the game in order to play mesmer effectively. For example, many of the mesmer spells interrupt "spells" but enemy casters don't use "spells" all the time, so not everything can be interrupted.

Aug 08, 2006, 11:20 PM // 23:20	#55
SuperFuzz Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Idaho Profession: W/Mo	I found that out a little late, being new to the game, and had already created a mesmer. Now I've got numerous hours invested in a level 15 Mesmer, so I'm just doing my best to try to make the character work and become more proficient at using her skills properly.

Aug 09, 2006, 03:53 AM // 03:53	#57
Run Red Run Academy Page Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Colorado Guild: Rally Opposing Fears [ROFL]	I know what you're going through. GW was my first MMO as well, and for some strange reason, I picked Mesmer as my first character too. It's frustrating at first, but a few friends really helped me out and kept my interest. Now i'm a PvP junkie and play this game way more than I really should... It's good that you're asking questions and there are plenty of people on these forums that will lend a helping hand.

Aug 09, 2006, 04:38 AM // 04:38	#58
SuperFuzz Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Idaho Profession: W/Mo	I've got to give Baconator credit. I was ready to give up on Guild Wars and call my self an FPS gamer, but with his help I was able to complete several missions I couldn't have otherwise and rekindled my interest in the game. Now if I can just get past this bloody Zen Daijun mission, I'd be much happier. This mission is a proverbial b**ch!!!! I've even had lvl 20 human help and can't get through it!

Aug 09, 2006, 08:20 AM // 08:20	#60
SuperFuzz Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Idaho Profession: W/Mo	Yay, thanks to Bacon and 2 other real peeps, I finally got through Zen Daijun! Learned several more valuable lessons tonight too. 1. Bravery and instigating a fight are not a good idea for a mesmer! 2. Always bring your resurrection skill when you have a henchie healer. 3. Storage agents actually serve a purpose. 4. Using a superior rune of domination on level 15 armor is NOT a good idea! Bacon showed me a slew of other stuff tonight too. I feel like young padawan, being taught by the master. Except it's backwards since I'm crusty and he's not.